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09-18-2008
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Obviously Unavoidable
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First of all, let me welcome you to this newly created journal.
The point of Obviously Unavoidable you ask? Share music I like with all who want to read about it. I'll be posting about every genre in here, with exception to R&B and Rap. Not that I don't like those genres, I just don't listen to them a lot. Other than that, I will avoid well known bands. The point is sharing music, not givin another opinion on a band you have known for years.
Ufcourse "well known" is open for interpretation. But on every 10 bands I'll mention, you are bound to find one you like and had never heard of.
I own a lot of music, so if you want a band showing up in this journal you can just ask, chances are high I'll know them. And if not: I'll learn to know them.
Enjoy :-) Music is life.
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09-18-2008
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Slint
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So first in line: SLINT
To people who listen to post-rock they surely are well known. But I personally don't think that they are well known in general.
So here it goes:
Slint is, as mentioned above, a post-rock (1) band.
More info on the band can be found on the internet, you don't need me to tell you that they quit playing, that they influenced the whole post-rock scene (for example mogwai), that they only have 2 albums and stuff like that. I'm here to tell you that they rock. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you wan't to learn to know them I sugest the album Spiderland. Don't go out on youtube or myspace and only listen to one song, or you're doomed. It isn't Britney you are judging here, it's post rock, and every post-rock song has it's own story to tell.
The message is: listen. Listen to more then one song, listen it more then once. Sit back and relax, turn of the TV, pour yourself a glass of wine, or a good pint (Belgian beer rules the world) and listen to the music. Grab a book or draw funny pictures, I don't care, as long as you listen to what you hear. (I don't know if you can read and listen music at the same time, I can...)
The music of Spiderland is noted for its angular guitar rhythms, dramatically alternating dynamic shifts, and irregular time signatures. McMahan's singing style interchanges between mumbling spoken word and strained shouting. The lyrics of Spiderland are often written in a narrative style. Influences on the record included Gang of Four, Black Sabbath, and Sonic Youth. Will Hermes of Spin summarized the album's sound as "mid-'70s King Crimson gone emo: screeching guitar chords and gorgeous note-spinning in odd-metered instrumentals speckled with words both spoken and sung".[10] Piero Scaruffi drew comparisons in Spiderland's sound to the genres of blues and acid rock, as well as the slowcore band Codeine.
Enjoy  music is life.
(1) Post rock: Post-rock is a genre of alternative rock characterized by the use of musical instruments commonly associated with rock music, but using rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions that are not found in rock tradition. It is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes. Practitioners of the genre's style typically produce instrumental music.
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09-18-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivionofsoul
Sit back and relax, turn of the TV, pour yourself a glass of wine, or a good pint (Belgian beer rules the world) and listen to the music. Grab a book or draw funny pictures, I don't care, as long as you listen to what you hear. (I don't know if you can read and listen music at the same time, I can...)
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That was a great piece of advice, and I can listen to music and read at the same time as well. (You'll have to explain more about your beer though, I saw a program about all the fancy fruit flavored ones brewed in Belgium and they definitely won't be taking up space in my cooler. )
Thanks for starting a journal Oblivionofsoul, you're off to a very good start I would say.
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09-20-2008
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Beer (and also Reel big fish and Kemuri)
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Because of Popular request (lol, seriously: I just love to promote beer)
our next group will be REEL BIG FISH
Before you all go: I know them already and they are pretty well known: THIS IS AN EXCUSE TO TALK BEER...
Now you're thinking, how is he going to use a SKA (1) band to talk about beer, now that's where the song Beer comes in to the picture.
After this little hint you should see the connection between RBF and Beer, but now you're wondering (probably not, but hey, you might like SKA and still want this read to pay off) why I'm not talking about Kemuri, an other great, not so well known, SKA band. Well the answer is obviously unavoidable: BEER. Kemuri sings in japanese or something like that, so if they have a song about beer, I wouldn't know about it...
First an introduction to SKA. Ska isn't all that relaxing, but kill me if it doesn't sound happy!  So you might wan't to skip your daily dose of cafeine before you listen to Kemuri or Reel Big Fish.
Never, i mean, NEVER use SKA in the bedroom. You will, and this is a clear warning, not be able to create a romantic environement with SKA, unlike a variety of other genres. So what is the whole point of ska then? I mean: isn't relaxing, keeps you away from coffee, isn't a mood-maker,....
Well it's obvious: it makes you happy, and if it doesn't: it's great to drink some nice and cool beers with your pals whilst listening to SKA.
For example the song Beer, by RBF, (see how smoothly I'm turning the subject around to beer?) is great whilst drinking a few of the best beers in the world, made in Belgium..
It's true that a lot of the Belgian beers are fruit beers. But in a country where there are around 500 different sorts of beer and 125 different brewery's, the fruitbeers are only for pussy's and girliez (hehe) Or for the Dutch... 
It is common knowledge that a lot of beertasters (For example Michael Jackson, not the 'i like kidz' popstar but a known beertaster) have decided that Westvleteren is the best beer in the world. Funny story because it is brewed by monks who refuse to sell the recipe and who refuse to brew more than what they brew now. So when you want a crate you have to go all the way to the monastery where you can buy exactly ONE crate a person.
So if you really don't want to visit Belgium just for one crate, I would sugest something else...
For example Belgium has 6 trappist, Trappist beers are beers brewed in a Trappist monastery. For a beer to qualify for this category, the entire production process must be carried out by, or supervised by, Trappist monks on the site of the monastery. Only seven monasteries currently meet this qualification, six of which are in Belgium and one in the Netherlands. The current Trappist producers are Achel, Chimay, Koningshoeven (the Netherlands), Orval, Rochefort, Westmalle, and Westvleteren. The Trappist beers have very little in common with each other aside from the place of origin. Each one of these beers is GREAT! though, if you are used to let's say Heineken or Coors or Duff, for all I care, you don't want to drink more then one.. They are very strong beers, not in percentage of alcohol, but in how you react to them. After 3 I'm down on the ground puking...
I could talk all day about :
BUT I won't: if you find a beer in your local store that is belgian, ask me about it...
PS: If you really like SKA, or want to learn more, this site will be helpfull: The Attempted Ska Page!/BANDS
(1) Ska combined elements of Caribbean mento and calypso with American jazz and rhythm and blues. It is characterized by a walking bass line, accented with rhythms on the offbeat. In the early 1960s, ska was the dominant musical genre of Jamaica, and it was also popular with British mods. Many skinheads, in various decades, have also enjoyed ska (along with reggae, rocksteady and other genres). Music historians typically divide the history of ska into three periods: the original Jamaican ska scene of the 1960s, the 2 Tone ska revival that started in England in the late 1970s, and the third wave ska movement, which started in the 1980s.
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09-20-2008
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Hahaha,,,that was a great post Oblivionofsoul, and I knew you were going to talk about the Monks and their secrets about the art of making beer. I've never really been into Ska that much, maybe after reading this I'll pop open a cold one and listen to some.
I remember seeing a travel show years ago and I'm sure they visited one of those monasteries you mentioned Oblivion, and they had the largest most beautiful Hops garden I have ever seen, and I have heard lots of good things about the quality beers produced in Belgium.(I get thirsty just looking at the pictures of all that beer in your post. )
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09-23-2008
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Excellent work Oblivionofsoul!
and thank you so very much for the link to the information on SKA (i found it very useful since i am not familiar with SKA)

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09-24-2008
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I had a similiar site for punk but I don't seem to find it again...
I have an idea, might have been used before but since I don't have the time to write about a band today I'm asking all of you to name me a band and I will talk about bands that sound like the one you named. Or name a genre and I'll see what I can come up with...
For example: you say radiohead: I talk about: the verve (I'd do more of an effort to search for a group you guys don't already know...)
Ask me anything, metal, rock, classic, jazz but don't ask me about Rap / RnB or pop... I don't know and I don't care about Avril Lavigne or Madonna or the new Metallica song, (since it is being played as much as Madonna on the radio nowadays).
Edit: Manic Street Preachers --> this is the effort and plausible response to 'sounds like' Radiohead...
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09-24-2008
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Okay here's a genre for you to find a band from: "Blackened Forest Pixie Doom Metal". And if you don't like that one then find me a band that sounds like "Grendel".
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09-25-2008
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Hmmm :-) I'll pass the pixie doom metal. Grendel on the other hand is also unknown to me. All I know about Grendel is that Grendel is feared by all but Beowulf... I even had to check Wiki to refresh my memory. (and honestly just copy pasted the sentence - Grendel is feared by all but Beowulf...)
BUT! no fear, google is here. Could it be that Grendel is an electro (industrial) band from the Netherlands? If so, it's quite hard to name other bands that sound like them (for me). I can name electro bands, but those usually don't have voices (i enjoy electro better without a voice), and if they do, they aren't even close to Grendel's singer(s)... He has something metal in his voice.. BUT! (again a but!) I'll try. I had to base my assumptions on 4 songs on a myspace so... Ow and by the way: this genre is way to specific for me to actually help.
First off: Wynardtage. A band I got to know this summer, it'll be hard to find songs i recon, I only have a few live songs myself.. But it is the only band that fits with Grendel that I really know. I'll let you in on a secret: a guy I met at a party put those songs on my MP3 player, and I never even took the trouble to get into the genre...
Until now: I did some searching and came up with Tactical Sekt, the name rings a bell, but nothing more... So 9 chances of 10 that you already know them, since even I know them.
Other bands in the list are: Combichrist, Dawn of Ashes, Suicide Commando and Alien Vampire... NONE OF THEM RING A BELL. And I didn't search for more than their names.
Still open for suggestions.. 
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09-25-2008
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Hahaha, I was just messing around with the Pixie Doom thing Oblivion but with a name like that I couldn't resist throwing it out there. I only discovered Grendel a few days ago, and they remind me of a German power metal band more than anything else I can think of. I only have their newest release and they haven't got more than 3 CD's?, out that I know of. Good stuff Oblivion, I'll come up with something a little less exotic for you next time.
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When I walk through the shadow of the valley of death
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