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    I am old and cranky
    WTF is it with all the different genre's or subgenre's in this category.

    I understand controlled screaming and aggression in Metal (I grew up listening to it) and I know I am going to be chastized but there is so much crap that I just dont GET IT. Seems everytime I turn around there is another "word" placed in front or behind the word "Metal"

    Give it your best shot to set me straight and convince me there is really a need for all this.

    If I plug a banjo into a distortion pedal and scream like a pig, am I a redneckmetal band ?

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    YES, yes you are. Btw that's a revolutionary idea, you should do it.

    You don't have to use these names, you could just call everything heavy metal and that would be cool I think. But my guess is some artists feel their music should be distinguished from others because it's special so they come up with names for their styles.
    We're not pretty enough to be that stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sush View Post
    YES, yes you are. Btw that's a revolutionary idea, you should do it.

    You don't have to use these names, you could just call everything heavy metal and that would be cool I think. But my guess is some artists feel their music should be distinguished from others because it's special so they come up with names for their styles.
    Its like the chicken or the egg thing.
    More often than not, the word pretentious seems to be at the forefront of my thinking when I try to relate to some of this sorry to say

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    Sure you're probably right. But hell man, whatever works for them.

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    Heavy Metal it is then. All of it .
    Ashame there is nothing to debate about now

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    You mean I actually SOLVED SOMETHING?!

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    I agree, there are way too many genre specifications. It is all very confusing.

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    It's not really that confusing. If you listen to a lot of different metal sub-genres, the definition of each sub-genre comes naturally. I don't try too hard remembering sub-genres but I still do remember mostly all of them except for the weird obscure ones that were made as a joke like ocean metal or something. Some people would disagree, but I find sub-genre classifications mandatory, you can't just shake your head and say "that's just metal" in this day and age, metal has evolved since it was just called heavy metal, proper classification is necessary when there exist so many sub-genres it's nearly impossible to count.

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    I agree to a point Death, and am not questioning your experience in the new metal scene, but there are Too Many period. And I will bet everything I own that many of these will go extinct in a decade or so anyway. I will use the main ones, but many power metal bands are just plain hard rock/heavy metal with a double bass pedal for example, they are shoved into a metal category that seems fake to me anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Grendel View Post
    I agree to a point Death, and am not questioning your experience in the new metal scene, but there are Too Many period. And I will bet everything I own that many of these will go extinct in a decade or so anyway. I will use the main ones, but many power metal bands are just plain hard rock/heavy metal with a double bass pedal for example, they are shoved into a metal category that seems fake to me anyway.
    Yeah, well of course it is overwhelming and sometimes a bit superfluous, but you have to acknowledge that these sub-genre titles aren't made just for some laughs (sometimes they are, which is why I said it can be a bit superfluous), they are just names for an already existing sound. How can you not categorize something that needs categorizing? If anything, the innovation metal artists have is the main problem, and I don't really think you can blame the artists for that, so I disagree, they may be too many, but for a purpose. I'm not trying to say that I'm some metal expert, it just comes pretty naturally if you're willing to explore all the various sub-genres instead of sticking to one specific sub-genre.

    EDIT: Regarding your post about "new metal" really the only new metal I listen to is the slam/brutal death metal scene and some progressive metal / progressive death metal that came out after the millennium, most of the stuff I listen to is from the late 70s to early-mid 90s.

    EDIT2: You may think that these sub-genres will go extinct in a decade, but you have to realize that they've been around for more than a decade, so they clearly aren't going anywhere soon. Haha, sorry for nitpicking your statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death View Post
    It's not really that confusing. If you listen to a lot of different metal sub-genres, the definition of each sub-genre comes naturally. I don't try too hard remembering sub-genres but I still do remember mostly all of them except for the weird obscure ones that were made as a joke like ocean metal or something. Some people would disagree, but I find sub-genre classifications mandatory, you can't just shake your head and say "that's just metal" in this day and age, metal has evolved since it was just called heavy metal, proper classification is necessary when there exist so many sub-genres it's nearly impossible to count.
    I basically agree with you. With extreme metal in particular, the genres may seem unnecessary to an outsider because it seems like its all just downtuned guitars and harsh vocals. They don't see the variety that exists. To an experienced metalhead the genres come naturally for the most part.

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    I find these metal genres very helpfull. When someone recommends you a band and say that it's a metal then it'll be a hard to guess what type of music they play. Unnecessary deep classification is not needed. But, in some extent genres are helpfull to me.

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    No problem but honestly a lot of this overgenrefication could have been done from the late 60's, 70's and 80' as well.,,,we just didn't bother with it. There are some innovations in metal, but I disagree about many of them lasting, as a mainstream sub-genre anyway. Many will fade away and be replaced by something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Grendel View Post
    No problem but honestly a lot of this overgenrefication could have been done from the late 60's, 70's and 80' as well.,,,we just didn't bother with it. There are some innovations in metal, but I disagree about many of them lasting, as a mainstream sub-genre anyway. Many will fade away and be replaced by something else.
    Of course, but death, black and thrash metal all took off around 1983, and that's 26 years ago, almost 3 decades and I don't expect it to die off anytime soon, though anything can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bengal View Post
    If I plug a banjo into a distortion pedal and scream like a pig, am I a redneckmetal band ?
    I would buy that album.

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